Auton myynti Canadaan... Fake vai mitä ihmettä...
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Auton myynti Canadaan... Fake vai mitä ihmettä...
Autoni on ollut nettiautossa myynnissä ja viime yönä oli tullut postitse erikoinen ostotarjous. Pistänpä esille koko viesti...
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> Hello.
> I am interested in your car and i have agreed to buy it.pls send me
> the last price in euro so that i can send you a Cheque as the form of
> payment for the car because i am an International buyer also send me
> the present condition.including the picture and more information about
> the car. reply me as soon as possible so that i can let you know how
> the transaction will proceed.
> thanks
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Vastasin hänelle lisätietoja ja kyselin kaupanteosta lisää informaatiota
Vastaus tuli tässä:
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I am in Canada and i run my company in which i buy auto machines for
clients around the world as long as you can assure me of the car being in perfect condition.
Once again thanks for you response,actually i have a garage where i put the car i buy in europe but due to the haste of my client i will be sending the Cheque i will send a Cheque of 10,940euro.This means the Cheque that will be sent to you will include an excess amount which is 5000 euro for the shippers fee for a home pick up from your base down to Canada its new origin,So the Cheque will be in the amount of 10,940 euros whereby you will deduct the cost of the car which is 5,940euros and send the balance of 5,000 euros to my shipper via western union money transfer, Any of which is closest to you or preferred .You did not need to worry as our prepaid shipping company will come to pick the car up from your base for shippment to Canada and the bankCheque will include the fees i mentioned above.so i am trusting you to handle his funds with care and honesty and UTMOST confidentiality. What i want to clarify is that will you be able to cash the Cheque immediately from your bank and send the excess back via western union money transfer for the shipping charges that my shipper will pay to the shipping company through western union money transfer as soon as the Cheque is cashed and you deduct the money for the sales of your car,the shippers will also prepare the documentations for the change of ownership and also the sales contract or transaction for the car
Please your answer on this will enable me to issue a directive to contact my client on the need to contact my bank to get the Cheque ready and send it to you with out any further delay . so send me your name, address and phone number so that the Cheque can be sent to you as soon as possible
thanks.
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Nyt sitten arveluttaa koko homma, onko tämä fake vai ihan oikea ostaja?
Jos kyseessä oikea ostaja, niin onko tässä jotain sudenkuoppaa jossa
joudun lopulta maksumieheksi vielä joihinkin kuluihin tms... Onko
hyviä ideoita, edetäkö asiassa vai jatkaako auton myyntiä... ?
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> Hello.
> I am interested in your car and i have agreed to buy it.pls send me
> the last price in euro so that i can send you a Cheque as the form of
> payment for the car because i am an International buyer also send me
> the present condition.including the picture and more information about
> the car. reply me as soon as possible so that i can let you know how
> the transaction will proceed.
> thanks
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Vastasin hänelle lisätietoja ja kyselin kaupanteosta lisää informaatiota
Vastaus tuli tässä:
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I am in Canada and i run my company in which i buy auto machines for
clients around the world as long as you can assure me of the car being in perfect condition.
Once again thanks for you response,actually i have a garage where i put the car i buy in europe but due to the haste of my client i will be sending the Cheque i will send a Cheque of 10,940euro.This means the Cheque that will be sent to you will include an excess amount which is 5000 euro for the shippers fee for a home pick up from your base down to Canada its new origin,So the Cheque will be in the amount of 10,940 euros whereby you will deduct the cost of the car which is 5,940euros and send the balance of 5,000 euros to my shipper via western union money transfer, Any of which is closest to you or preferred .You did not need to worry as our prepaid shipping company will come to pick the car up from your base for shippment to Canada and the bankCheque will include the fees i mentioned above.so i am trusting you to handle his funds with care and honesty and UTMOST confidentiality. What i want to clarify is that will you be able to cash the Cheque immediately from your bank and send the excess back via western union money transfer for the shipping charges that my shipper will pay to the shipping company through western union money transfer as soon as the Cheque is cashed and you deduct the money for the sales of your car,the shippers will also prepare the documentations for the change of ownership and also the sales contract or transaction for the car
Please your answer on this will enable me to issue a directive to contact my client on the need to contact my bank to get the Cheque ready and send it to you with out any further delay . so send me your name, address and phone number so that the Cheque can be sent to you as soon as possible
thanks.
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Nyt sitten arveluttaa koko homma, onko tämä fake vai ihan oikea ostaja?
Jos kyseessä oikea ostaja, niin onko tässä jotain sudenkuoppaa jossa
joudun lopulta maksumieheksi vielä joihinkin kuluihin tms... Onko
hyviä ideoita, edetäkö asiassa vai jatkaako auton myyntiä... ?
Onhan siitä ollut jo jonkunaikkaa juttukin nettiautossa.
Tässä oli vissiin uutta se, että 5.000 € piti lähettää heti eteenpäin jollekin kuljetusfirmalle. Ja painotettiin erityisesti, että heti kun saat shekin niin kuittaat rahat pankista JA siirrät osan eteenpäin. Autostasi nämä huijarit eivät varmaan olleet lainkaan kiinnostuneet, mutta tuo rahojen siirto eteenpäin on tässä se juju.
Shekkihän on luonnollisesti katteeton, mutta sen toteamiseen menee muutama pankkipäivä. Tosin ainakaan OP ei nykyään anna rahoja suoraan, vaan tilisiirto tehdään vasta kun shekki on todettu katteelliseksi. Jos katetta ei ole, shekin esittäjältä veloitetaan kuitenkin tarkistuskulut.
Saisivat ne pohjoisamerikkalaiset jo pikkuhiljaa luopua tuosta shekkijärjestelmästä.
Shekkihän on luonnollisesti katteeton, mutta sen toteamiseen menee muutama pankkipäivä. Tosin ainakaan OP ei nykyään anna rahoja suoraan, vaan tilisiirto tehdään vasta kun shekki on todettu katteelliseksi. Jos katetta ei ole, shekin esittäjältä veloitetaan kuitenkin tarkistuskulut.
Saisivat ne pohjoisamerikkalaiset jo pikkuhiljaa luopua tuosta shekkijärjestelmästä.
Viimeksi muokannut Wolle, 16.11.2006 21:02. Yhteensä muokattu 1 kertaa.
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No kyllä tuo juu huijaukselta vaikuttaa. Miksi joku haluaisi hakea kanadaan kymmenen vuotta vanhan 1.6 a4:n. Täällähän tuolla on vielä arvoa, mutta ei kai tuolla canadassa mitään arvoa ole. Jos kyselisivät jotain harvinaista erikoisautoa, niin silloinhan tuo voisi olla periaatteessa oikeasti kiinnostunut, mutta ei varmasti ole kyllä nyt.
No kyllä tuo juu huijaukselta vaikuttaa. Miksi joku haluaisi hakea kanadaan kymmenen vuotta vanhan 1.6 a4:n. Täällähän tuolla on vielä arvoa, mutta ei kai tuolla canadassa mitään arvoa ole. Jos kyselisivät jotain harvinaista erikoisautoa, niin silloinhan tuo voisi olla periaatteessa oikeasti kiinnostunut, mutta ei varmasti ole kyllä nyt.
heheh, sitä samaa itsekin aloin miettimään kun ehdin ajatuksen kanssa lukaista viestejä läpi. Kaikkea ne jaksaa. Ihmetyttää lähinnä tuossa sitten tuo shekkihomma, että voit nostaa rahat pois ja pankki sitten tuleekin perimään niitä viikon päästä takaisin. Ei tuollaisen nykyajan tietokonejärjestelmillä pitäisi olla enää mahdollista...
Sehän se onkin noiden shekkien ongelma. Amerikassa ovat ilmeisesti vasta siirtymässä siihen, että shekin tiedot voidaan siirtää lunastusta varten toiseen pankkiin. Nykyisessä järjestelmässä shekki pitää ihan fyysisesti siirtää lunastusta varten siihen pankkiin, jossa se on alunperin asetettu. Tästä syystä shekkejä lentelee vieläkin pitkin poikin amerikan mannerta kuljetusfirmojen lentokoneilla. Tämä lunastusviive sitten antaa mahdollisuuden kaikenlaisille huijareille, kuten tässä Kanada-tapauksessakin.
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Jos intoa ja ylimääräistä aikaa löytyy ei muuta kuin tän tyyppinen toiminta käyntiin.
http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/albumit/27035/wz.pdf
http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/albumit/27035/wz.pdf
Tuollainen "toiminta" nyt on vähän niinkuin puhelinmyyjää alkaisi kiusaamaan. Itsellesi saatat saada hyvän olon mutta puhelinmyyjä ei päivän päätteeksi välitä nk. vittuakaan. Sen mitä itte olen puhelinmyyntiä tehnyt niin lopuksi vain nauratti miten jotkut olivat mielestään elämääkin ovelampia kettuja.
Parempi antaa noiden vaan olla rauhassa ja jättää vastaamatta.
Parempi antaa noiden vaan olla rauhassa ja jättää vastaamatta.
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Täältähän noita huijausviestejä löytyy.
Scam email: archive:
http://www.scamalicious.com/archive/sca ... scambuyers
Itellekkin tuli joku US$M1000, 000.00 (One Million United States
Dollars) lottovoitto sähköpostiin :)
Scam email: archive:
http://www.scamalicious.com/archive/sca ... scambuyers
Itellekkin tuli joku US$M1000, 000.00 (One Million United States
Dollars) lottovoitto sähköpostiin :)
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Dear Sir.
The car is registered in Finland , that is the reason why it's sold in Finland.
Let me explain you all the process (the transaction steps):
First you need to send us your full name and address, after we have your information's we will start the delivery with a Third Party
Company (ESCROW) when they confirm you that the deliver was started (you will get a Tracking Number to check it) you will pay to the ESCROW company first 3000 Euro as a deposit, the delivery will take max 4 days, after the car arrive at your door you will get 5 days time to inspect the car and to decide if you want to keep it or not, if your decision is to keep the car you will pay us the rest of the money and in the same time you will sign the rest of the papers to be the owner of the car, if your decision is to not keep the car we will ship it back and the ESCROW company will refund you all the money back.
If you understand the process and if you agree with it send us your name
and address to start it.The standard warranty is 12 months.
Thank you
Tälläinen posti tuli vastauksena kyselyyni eräästä autosta, jonka hinta oli hieman normaalia halvempi...
The car is registered in Finland , that is the reason why it's sold in Finland.
Let me explain you all the process (the transaction steps):
First you need to send us your full name and address, after we have your information's we will start the delivery with a Third Party
Company (ESCROW) when they confirm you that the deliver was started (you will get a Tracking Number to check it) you will pay to the ESCROW company first 3000 Euro as a deposit, the delivery will take max 4 days, after the car arrive at your door you will get 5 days time to inspect the car and to decide if you want to keep it or not, if your decision is to keep the car you will pay us the rest of the money and in the same time you will sign the rest of the papers to be the owner of the car, if your decision is to not keep the car we will ship it back and the ESCROW company will refund you all the money back.
If you understand the process and if you agree with it send us your name
and address to start it.The standard warranty is 12 months.
Thank you
Tälläinen posti tuli vastauksena kyselyyni eräästä autosta, jonka hinta oli hieman normaalia halvempi...
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The pictures were made in Germany , if you understand the process please send us your name and address to start the process.The information about the car are in the cargo at the shipping company.
About the takes ,. the VAT is paid , also the shipping and handling taxes.
You will not pay us any money , the payment will be done to the shipping company that will bring the car to your house.
Thank you
Sir,
The car is located at the shipping company in Germany, the escrow method was chose by my firm , I'm just a contact person and this is the only way we sell the cars because we have contract with the company.The deposit will be sent in the shipping company bank account so there is no question about the safety.You will receive the car in 4 days,the inspection period is 5 days.In this time you can drive the car (but no more than 50 km),you can go with it at a local dealer or workshop but only with the agent from the shipping company. The papers will be done only after the 5 days of inspection.If the car is not suitable it will be sent back and you will receive the deposit back in the same day you take the decision.
Thank you
you must contact them for that , but first you must send us your name and address to activate the shipping.
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Minulle tuli tällainen kusetus kun olin ostamassa autoa (copypaste Audiforumilta)
Olen ostamassa uutta autoa ja löysin Saksasta todella halvan auton (S4):
http://www.autoscout24.de/home/index/de ... sn3ey4anmj
Tuo oli mobile.de:ssä aikaisemmin, ja n. 30 hv tehokkaampana :). Nyt se on sieltä hävinnyt. Laitoin tuosta mailia kaverille, ja kysyin lisätietoja autosta kun ilmoituksessa ei ollut oikein mitään. No, kuvia tai tietoja en saanut vaan kovaa myyntipuhetta ja lässytystä. Viimein kun sain tietää kaupantekotavan, alkoi epäilykset heräämään. (Kannattaa lukea tässä välissä mailikeskustelu.) Soitin Western Unionin konttoriin Ruotsiin ja selitin heille asian. Kysyin että voiko tämä kaveri vain tarkistaa että lähettämäni rahat on siellä, mutta ei voi niitä nostaa. He kuulemma väärentävät henkkarit sopiviksi ja menevät nostamaan rahat ja sen jälkeen ei niistä kuulu mitään. Tätä tapahtuu Suomessakin todella paljon, ja heille tulee kyselyitä tällaisesta viisi kertaa päivässä. Eli kannattaa olla varovainen. No enpä kyllä olis tuolla tavalla kauppoja tehnytkään, olisin varmasti mennyt sitä katsomaan paikanpäälle.
Maili alkaa:
Mr Mikko Vaelitalo is interested in your vehicle with the following description:
Audi S4 2.7T
http://en.mobile.de/cgi-bin/da.pl?id=11 ... &sprache=2
Hi, you have an Audi S4 for sale? I am interested about it. Is the price correct, 6300 eur? What kind of interior does the car have? Leather seats or alcantara....? Is the car in what kind of condition? Are the turbos OK? I am from Finland. Could I have better pictures from the car?
-----Original Message-----
From: ext Mathias Lorek [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:56 AM
To: -------
Subject: Re: Interest in your vehicle on www.mobile.de
Dear sir,
In the first I want to tell you that the price is correct!!
The car is in perfect condition as you can see
in the pictures,never crashed,the motor is perfect,like
new.If you are still interested to buy the car,please reply me soon,
and i will tell you how we can make this deal!
Please reply me and we will forward with the deal.
Have a nice day , and thank you for your message.
Regards,
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Could you tell me more about the cars equipment? _Everything_ important please (electric windows, tempomat, ESP? you know...). What kind seats are in it? Is the chassis normal? What about the transmission, how many gears does it have? And does it have Tiptronic? Do you have more (and better and bigger) pictures of the car? Inside pictures also. Those in the web are too small.
I am coming to Germany in 3.11.2004, and then I could look the car better?
Best regards, Mikko
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From: ext Mathias Lorek [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:20 PM
To: -----
Subject: RE: Interest in your vehicle on www.mobile.de
Dear sir,
The price is correct.
I hope you can understand me:I am in United Kingdom and this car is really,and is not a joke.The car is in perfect condition,like new,in good shape and i have all the papers from the car.It has a clean title,I am the first owner of this car.Here in UK,I drive now a Hummer H2(with the controls on the right),and I can`t drive the car here because the stearring wheel is on the left,as european model,and I need a car with the stearing wheel on right because here in UK is very difficult to drive a car with the controls on the left as that car.I hope I was very clear ,and you understand me.When I purchased the car,I was living in Germany,and the car was perfect there...but now due some bussines I live in United Kingdom. Also I purchased the Hummer H2 one month ago and I have to pay the rest of GBP 5000 for the car and I need this money in a few days to close the deal and pay the rest for the HUMMER. I already have a few interested buyers and I want to be sure that you really want this car. I know that buying or selling on the internet can be rather difficult, and it is always hard to trust your companion, because you never hear or see him.For this reason i want to complete this deal in the safest way possible, for you and for me.
If you are still interested I will tell how we can do to close this deal.
Please reply me and we will forward with the deal...
Kind Regards,
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Hi, I still am interested and understand why you are selling the car. But
still, I want to know more facts about the car before I make a desicion.
What kind of deal are you deal are you talking about? Is the car now in
Germany? And you in UK...? I can pay the car in cash, but first I must see
it...
BR: Mikko
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Hello,
I have a solution
I am from United Kingdom and as I told you also the car is in UK. I will make the delivery at your address and you can there inspect the car in your country. I think is more helpful for you if you will check the car there,anyway your are first on my list ,but please let me know because I have some other possible buyers that I`ve put in stand by for the moment. It is more simply in my way because,when I will deliver the car to your address,I will make a contract with DHL Service and if you change your mind or you don`t like the car DHL will return in max 6 days with the car at my address.Please understand that if you receive the car and you like it but if you can`t registrate in your country (or you have some others problems that make you to decide to don`t take this car)but I guarantee you that you will registrate the car without any problems because the car is clean, ! without any problems, you can refuse the car and the delivery service will return with the car back to me and you will not have any obligations for that. I don`t want money in advance but all that I want is to be sure that you have the money,and I don't pay the delivery fees at DHL,and the export fees for nothing,for a person who is only interested to see a car...you may be interested but maybe you don`t have the money,and in this way I will pay over GBP 900 for the delivery fees(and maybe you don`t have the money...so that I want an assurance that you have the money....and as soon as I will see that I will deliver the car and the car will be at your address in maximum 3 working days. After you receive the car I remind you that you will have other 3 days for inspection and test the car(you can go with the car at a dealer from your city,at a mechanic,or you can verify the papers from the car with the police).
After these 3 days a ! person from DHL(an DHL employed) Service will come at you with the buying-selling contract in original between me as a seller and you as a buyer and and if you want the car you will have to sign the contract and the car will be transfered on your name directly,of course that will be in case you will be agree with the car and after a minutious research in the original papers of the car,after a drive test,and other methods that will be at your choice to verify and test the car.In these 3 days of inspection the car will stay at your address so you can decide.
On the other side all that you will have to make is to go at an Western Union Office-I hope you know western Union Service- and do the following thing so I can verify if all is ok and send
you the car:
You will go and make the transfer by Western Union Service, to my location,here in UK,from your country, here in UK, but not to my name (you will use your ! best friends name,your girlfriend name, for example as receiver's name,or a member from your family) so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money untill you get the car and the papers of the car.
So you make a deposit at Western Union Service and you will give me the transfer's details(SENDER NAME,RECEIVER NAME,MTCN) so I can check that the deposit was made,and the money exist in their sistem. After I verify,and see that the money are in UK, I will send you the car and the papers of the car like I have told you above, imediatelly and email you the scaned papers from the delivery and the scaned paper of the sale contract in original. In this mode,you will be sure that the car is on the way to you. After you will receive the car and check it,and if all is ok, you will have to go back at Western Union Service,take your money back, and give all the money to the Transport Service as an Cash on Delivery Service.
So untill you ! will have the car and the papers of the car in your hands the money will be deposited on your best friend name at Western Union agent.
As soon as the car arrives, you will test the car, and if it does not matches to your expectations, you will return it without any obligations.
How are you protected in case we have a deal?
Simply you will have to go as I told you and send the money via western Union Service on a name at your choice but on a valid address from United Kingdom,my country and send me the payment details so I can verify them.After I will verify the payment and if it is ok,if the money exist and are available under the name and address that you send the delivery service will came at your address with the car in max 3 working days.
Doing like that you have the advantage of being able to inspect it and take it for a test drive(you can even have it checked by mechanic), you will verify the car's documentation and paperwork and then if everything is OK you will retire the money from Western Union Service and sign the buying-selling contract with the delivery service and give them the money and it is like Cash on Delivery but in this case both of us will be protected,you as a buyer because you will see and test the car before you buy and me as a seller because I will be sure that you have the money and I don`t make a lot of papers and pay a lot of fees for delivery for nothing. Now i will point out a few things that are very important for you to understand in this transaction.Western Union will not guarantee this transaction as they are only offering service for money transfer and not for mutual accounts.They will only be able to make the money transfer so please do not ask them what security do you have because thet guarantee none.Also please do not tell the Western Union people that this transfer is for an internet ! purchase because they will charge their regular fee and 15% of the amount transfered for comercial use of their services.I am not willing to pay that money and i guess that neither do you so just tell them that you are sending this money to a friend(if they ask you about it).
So if you want to make the deal please let me know now and send me your full details so I can start the reservation for shipping the car Please let me know if you want or not,.because I am in hurry and I have a lot of buyers to attend! Also please reply me with your phone number in case you agree with my terms so I can contact you and speak more and forward the deal.
I wish you all the best and I am waiting for your reply!
Kind Regards,
Vielä lisää paskanjauhantaa tuli tämän jälkeen, mutta niitä ei ole tallessa. Mutta se meni kuitenkin jotenkin näin: pyysin uudestaan tietoja autosta ja _kuvia_. Mitään tarkkaahan se ei kertonut, mutta lopuksi sain kuvia, ja ihan jotain hatusta vedettyjä tietoja varusteista. Kuvissa näkyikin sitten yllättäen manuaalin keppi! Ja lattialla oli muovit, ihan kuin kuvat olisi otettu autokaupan myymättömästä autosta! Ulkokuviakin oli, mutta mistä lie autosta nekin oli... Kysyin sitten että miksi autossa on manuaali laatikko vaikka ilmoituksessa luki automaatti, niin kommentti oli vain että "vaihdoin sen". Hehe. Sitten en enää jaksanut vedättää tyyppiä vaan sanoin ettei tuollainen kiinnosta ja annoin olla. Vielä se jotain yritti selitellä perään. Että tämmöistä! :)
Olen ostamassa uutta autoa ja löysin Saksasta todella halvan auton (S4):
http://www.autoscout24.de/home/index/de ... sn3ey4anmj
Tuo oli mobile.de:ssä aikaisemmin, ja n. 30 hv tehokkaampana :). Nyt se on sieltä hävinnyt. Laitoin tuosta mailia kaverille, ja kysyin lisätietoja autosta kun ilmoituksessa ei ollut oikein mitään. No, kuvia tai tietoja en saanut vaan kovaa myyntipuhetta ja lässytystä. Viimein kun sain tietää kaupantekotavan, alkoi epäilykset heräämään. (Kannattaa lukea tässä välissä mailikeskustelu.) Soitin Western Unionin konttoriin Ruotsiin ja selitin heille asian. Kysyin että voiko tämä kaveri vain tarkistaa että lähettämäni rahat on siellä, mutta ei voi niitä nostaa. He kuulemma väärentävät henkkarit sopiviksi ja menevät nostamaan rahat ja sen jälkeen ei niistä kuulu mitään. Tätä tapahtuu Suomessakin todella paljon, ja heille tulee kyselyitä tällaisesta viisi kertaa päivässä. Eli kannattaa olla varovainen. No enpä kyllä olis tuolla tavalla kauppoja tehnytkään, olisin varmasti mennyt sitä katsomaan paikanpäälle.
Maili alkaa:
Mr Mikko Vaelitalo is interested in your vehicle with the following description:
Audi S4 2.7T
http://en.mobile.de/cgi-bin/da.pl?id=11 ... &sprache=2
Hi, you have an Audi S4 for sale? I am interested about it. Is the price correct, 6300 eur? What kind of interior does the car have? Leather seats or alcantara....? Is the car in what kind of condition? Are the turbos OK? I am from Finland. Could I have better pictures from the car?
-----Original Message-----
From: ext Mathias Lorek [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:56 AM
To: -------
Subject: Re: Interest in your vehicle on www.mobile.de
Dear sir,
In the first I want to tell you that the price is correct!!
The car is in perfect condition as you can see
in the pictures,never crashed,the motor is perfect,like
new.If you are still interested to buy the car,please reply me soon,
and i will tell you how we can make this deal!
Please reply me and we will forward with the deal.
Have a nice day , and thank you for your message.
Regards,
____________________
Could you tell me more about the cars equipment? _Everything_ important please (electric windows, tempomat, ESP? you know...). What kind seats are in it? Is the chassis normal? What about the transmission, how many gears does it have? And does it have Tiptronic? Do you have more (and better and bigger) pictures of the car? Inside pictures also. Those in the web are too small.
I am coming to Germany in 3.11.2004, and then I could look the car better?
Best regards, Mikko
________________
-----Original Message-----
From: ext Mathias Lorek [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:20 PM
To: -----
Subject: RE: Interest in your vehicle on www.mobile.de
Dear sir,
The price is correct.
I hope you can understand me:I am in United Kingdom and this car is really,and is not a joke.The car is in perfect condition,like new,in good shape and i have all the papers from the car.It has a clean title,I am the first owner of this car.Here in UK,I drive now a Hummer H2(with the controls on the right),and I can`t drive the car here because the stearring wheel is on the left,as european model,and I need a car with the stearing wheel on right because here in UK is very difficult to drive a car with the controls on the left as that car.I hope I was very clear ,and you understand me.When I purchased the car,I was living in Germany,and the car was perfect there...but now due some bussines I live in United Kingdom. Also I purchased the Hummer H2 one month ago and I have to pay the rest of GBP 5000 for the car and I need this money in a few days to close the deal and pay the rest for the HUMMER. I already have a few interested buyers and I want to be sure that you really want this car. I know that buying or selling on the internet can be rather difficult, and it is always hard to trust your companion, because you never hear or see him.For this reason i want to complete this deal in the safest way possible, for you and for me.
If you are still interested I will tell how we can do to close this deal.
Please reply me and we will forward with the deal...
Kind Regards,
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Hi, I still am interested and understand why you are selling the car. But
still, I want to know more facts about the car before I make a desicion.
What kind of deal are you deal are you talking about? Is the car now in
Germany? And you in UK...? I can pay the car in cash, but first I must see
it...
BR: Mikko
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Hello,
I have a solution
I am from United Kingdom and as I told you also the car is in UK. I will make the delivery at your address and you can there inspect the car in your country. I think is more helpful for you if you will check the car there,anyway your are first on my list ,but please let me know because I have some other possible buyers that I`ve put in stand by for the moment. It is more simply in my way because,when I will deliver the car to your address,I will make a contract with DHL Service and if you change your mind or you don`t like the car DHL will return in max 6 days with the car at my address.Please understand that if you receive the car and you like it but if you can`t registrate in your country (or you have some others problems that make you to decide to don`t take this car)but I guarantee you that you will registrate the car without any problems because the car is clean, ! without any problems, you can refuse the car and the delivery service will return with the car back to me and you will not have any obligations for that. I don`t want money in advance but all that I want is to be sure that you have the money,and I don't pay the delivery fees at DHL,and the export fees for nothing,for a person who is only interested to see a car...you may be interested but maybe you don`t have the money,and in this way I will pay over GBP 900 for the delivery fees(and maybe you don`t have the money...so that I want an assurance that you have the money....and as soon as I will see that I will deliver the car and the car will be at your address in maximum 3 working days. After you receive the car I remind you that you will have other 3 days for inspection and test the car(you can go with the car at a dealer from your city,at a mechanic,or you can verify the papers from the car with the police).
After these 3 days a ! person from DHL(an DHL employed) Service will come at you with the buying-selling contract in original between me as a seller and you as a buyer and and if you want the car you will have to sign the contract and the car will be transfered on your name directly,of course that will be in case you will be agree with the car and after a minutious research in the original papers of the car,after a drive test,and other methods that will be at your choice to verify and test the car.In these 3 days of inspection the car will stay at your address so you can decide.
On the other side all that you will have to make is to go at an Western Union Office-I hope you know western Union Service- and do the following thing so I can verify if all is ok and send
you the car:
You will go and make the transfer by Western Union Service, to my location,here in UK,from your country, here in UK, but not to my name (you will use your ! best friends name,your girlfriend name, for example as receiver's name,or a member from your family) so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money untill you get the car and the papers of the car.
So you make a deposit at Western Union Service and you will give me the transfer's details(SENDER NAME,RECEIVER NAME,MTCN) so I can check that the deposit was made,and the money exist in their sistem. After I verify,and see that the money are in UK, I will send you the car and the papers of the car like I have told you above, imediatelly and email you the scaned papers from the delivery and the scaned paper of the sale contract in original. In this mode,you will be sure that the car is on the way to you. After you will receive the car and check it,and if all is ok, you will have to go back at Western Union Service,take your money back, and give all the money to the Transport Service as an Cash on Delivery Service.
So untill you ! will have the car and the papers of the car in your hands the money will be deposited on your best friend name at Western Union agent.
As soon as the car arrives, you will test the car, and if it does not matches to your expectations, you will return it without any obligations.
How are you protected in case we have a deal?
Simply you will have to go as I told you and send the money via western Union Service on a name at your choice but on a valid address from United Kingdom,my country and send me the payment details so I can verify them.After I will verify the payment and if it is ok,if the money exist and are available under the name and address that you send the delivery service will came at your address with the car in max 3 working days.
Doing like that you have the advantage of being able to inspect it and take it for a test drive(you can even have it checked by mechanic), you will verify the car's documentation and paperwork and then if everything is OK you will retire the money from Western Union Service and sign the buying-selling contract with the delivery service and give them the money and it is like Cash on Delivery but in this case both of us will be protected,you as a buyer because you will see and test the car before you buy and me as a seller because I will be sure that you have the money and I don`t make a lot of papers and pay a lot of fees for delivery for nothing. Now i will point out a few things that are very important for you to understand in this transaction.Western Union will not guarantee this transaction as they are only offering service for money transfer and not for mutual accounts.They will only be able to make the money transfer so please do not ask them what security do you have because thet guarantee none.Also please do not tell the Western Union people that this transfer is for an internet ! purchase because they will charge their regular fee and 15% of the amount transfered for comercial use of their services.I am not willing to pay that money and i guess that neither do you so just tell them that you are sending this money to a friend(if they ask you about it).
So if you want to make the deal please let me know now and send me your full details so I can start the reservation for shipping the car Please let me know if you want or not,.because I am in hurry and I have a lot of buyers to attend! Also please reply me with your phone number in case you agree with my terms so I can contact you and speak more and forward the deal.
I wish you all the best and I am waiting for your reply!
Kind Regards,
Vielä lisää paskanjauhantaa tuli tämän jälkeen, mutta niitä ei ole tallessa. Mutta se meni kuitenkin jotenkin näin: pyysin uudestaan tietoja autosta ja _kuvia_. Mitään tarkkaahan se ei kertonut, mutta lopuksi sain kuvia, ja ihan jotain hatusta vedettyjä tietoja varusteista. Kuvissa näkyikin sitten yllättäen manuaalin keppi! Ja lattialla oli muovit, ihan kuin kuvat olisi otettu autokaupan myymättömästä autosta! Ulkokuviakin oli, mutta mistä lie autosta nekin oli... Kysyin sitten että miksi autossa on manuaali laatikko vaikka ilmoituksessa luki automaatti, niin kommentti oli vain että "vaihdoin sen". Hehe. Sitten en enää jaksanut vedättää tyyppiä vaan sanoin ettei tuollainen kiinnosta ja annoin olla. Vielä se jotain yritti selitellä perään. Että tämmöistä! :)
saman tyyppistä koin kesällä. Lyhyesti: myyjä lontoossa , auto saksassa. Ratti väärällä puolella ettei voi englannissa ruisailla. Niin ja hinta halpa. Olis pitänu UK pankkiin siirtää vaimon tai kaverin nimelle osa rahoista ihan vaan takuuks et mulla olis fyrkkaa. Totesin et jos ei mun sana riitä niin myy vaikka autoliikkeeseen. Pistää aina miettimään että kai ne saksalaiset jopparitkin osaa autoja ostaa ettei tarvis ulkomaille myydä tosi halvall..=)
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